Matias de Stefano Presents “The Keys of Ater Tumti” (Part 2/3): Transcript, First Part

For the video and the outline, please see part 1.

The following is the first half of the English-translated transcript to “The Keys of Ater Tumti,” by Matias de Stefano. The translation is from the English voice-over in the video. In this transcript, I have minimally edited the English translation in grammar and wording for easier readability, added screenshots of some of Matias’s slides, and added a few other images.  Couple of Matias’s slides have been modified, only with English translations of the text.



What we’re going to be doing today is a kind of a summary of what I normally do, so I’m going to try not to talk too long, because normally I have longer conferences. So today it’s going to be quite solid. So what I’m going to do is try to summarize the main points of what I’m trying to transmit, from all the different conferences that I’ve been doing lately. To begin with a brief summary of what this is all about, from the year ’87, a lot of us have come with the knowledge that isn’t new– it is just the base of it– to help people to understand the process that we’re going to have. We’ve had this knowledge for a long time, but it’s been a bit distorted and confused. So the idea is to help people organize the basis of this information to understand the process we’re going through today. What we’re going to talk about today is this: Ater Tumti. Ater Tumti summarizes the whole main idea of what I’m trying to transmit, the summary of the plan, and the reason you’re probably here trying to look for information or knowledge or whatever you’re here for. Ater Tumti means heaven on earth. The idea is to understand why we are here on earth—the main ides of why we have been created. That is why I want you to understand this phrase: Dhu Ater Tumti kei dhu ‘Urnus Aterti. I use this language to say this phrase because it hasn’t got any emotional attachment to it. Translated, it means “Bring heaven to earth, and afterwards, bring its light to heaven.” It has a strong Catholic attachment to it, the idea that heaven is up there, and Earth down here and all that sort of thing. Ater means heaven. Ater isn’t really heaven—it’s everything, it’s the universal essence. And tum is all the essence that became dense– everything that is dense light, like matter, for example. We are in the process of bringing that heaven to earth, which is dhu ater tumti. This is a process that each and every one of us has accepted to be born and take part in a physical world. It’s the essential plan that many of us have forgotten because it happened so long ago, even before time existed. So we have forgotten about a bit. But Ater Tumti is something that we are working on here and today, which is to bring all the divine to earth. The problem is that we as a humanity have reached the endpoint. What does this mean? We want to be here, but we also want to go. It’s kind of like, I like this but not too much. I want to go to the light, but not too much. So we are starting to integrate the process of bringing heaven to earth– to start now, to bring that earth to totality. We’re going to talk about this to understand better why this has begun: the Cosmic Plan. We’re going to talk about the birth of the Cosmic Plan. So I’m not going to be explaining this from a spiritual point of view, but offer you a tool so you can put it into practice here and now: To understand why all this exists, and how I can use it in my everyday life, OK?



A. Beginning with Nothing

P1. Black Screen

So first of all, we’re going to talk about the universal points. Anybody know what this is? [0:05:10, P1. black screen] Can you see it? Nothing. Yes, this was the first thing. People call it nothing. Anyone knows what nothing is? Exactly. Our brain can’t understand it because it’s too much. It’s so much, even more than the light. So it can’t be felt or seen. It’s more than the totality. “Nothing” is like this room, and each of you is like a god. Without the oxygen, walls, roof, and floors, we couldn’t be here. Nothing is what allows us to exist.

B. The Breath

Something important in all of this is breathing. This means beings who become conscious of themselves, and who began the process of evolution. Have you noticed that meditation is back into fashion? Meditation is one of the ways we can reach the understanding of totality. At the beginning, a kind of meditation happened. We meditate to understand better what? Sometimes, we try to find answers, and by doing meditation, we try to understand something that is outwards of us—like, how can I understand which is happening to me. This is because we are still trying to practice outwards. Everything we practice is outwards. Well, this being we call god is only meditating inwards, from the skin inside.

P2. In-breath

This is what we’re going to see now. That point there is what we know as [0:07:10, P2. in breath, small white spot] and this is [0:07:16, P3. out breath, large white spot]. It’s kind of like God sat down and began to meditate for a little bit. This breathing, with which one begins to meditate, is what began to make everything we know. This here [white spot] isn’t really light. I put it this way for you to understand, but it isn’t light yet.

P3. Out-Breath

So what we’re going to see are the structures of the universe that made us exist. To understand this, we must understand something else. If I’m a being who’s experimenting, I’ve got to know what’s inside me. If I’m the totality, how can I experience myself to understand myself within? I’m everything. It’s a bit difficult, because if I’m trying to analyze everything, it’s a bit impossible. So what this everything does is to begin to divide itself, to understand itself by parts. But of course, if someone cuts his arm to try understand it, he’ll lose his arm. So he needs something within to see how each part is. So he’s doing this meditation when the first phrase was said: “Can you help me to experience everything inside to understand what’s outside?” Who do you think he said this to? He said this to all of us who are inside. So God is like our body. And every electron of our body is us. So what God did first was to ask us for permission and help, so we could experience from within each and every of its parts. And that is what we are doing here.

C. The Sound

P4. Blue Ring, Sound

So, for the Universe, God, to be able to experiment, the following happened: Can you see it? [9:23, P4. blue ring added to center of white spot] That radiation is [breath sound.] It’s the closest we can get to understand it. Anyone knows what that is? That was the first thing that appeared in the universe. Even the Bible says it. Do you know what it was? Do you remember in the beginning was the word? Anyone read the bible? I didn’t, so I’m not really sure. In the beginning was the word. What is the word? The word is the sound. The first thing was the sound. As humanity we understand it as the word– God’s word, which was the sound, the original sound. Om. We can’t repeat it because our throat would burst. The sound is the base of everything that exists. The vibration of sound is what creates everything that exists. It’s the base, the sound and breath.  

D. Love Emerges (Heat/Magnetism)

P5. Yellow Dots, Electrons/Spirits

From the sound, what emerges is what people of my level call heat. The first thing that emerges from sound is heat, then. We don’t refer to it with a need, with emotional baggage; it’s just universal mathematical functions. So what is heat? Heat emerges when the om sound begins to move around the whole universe. What is this that you see on the screen, these yellow points that are about to emerge? [0:11:11, P5. yellow dots added] They are electrons. But universally, what are electrons? Are they the suns, the stars? At this point, the idea of matter doesn’t even exist. These famous electrons here, which mobilize sound, are what we call spirits. The electrons of the universe are the spirits. This means who we are, without form, just moving around from the sun. At the microscosmic level, we can say they’re electrons; at the macrocosmic level, they are what we know as spirits. These beings create the heat. What is heat? It is magnetism, because all the spirits moving around the universe connect with each other, creating a different vibration in the universe, which we see with this color, the green color [0:12:13 P6. green ring added, love]. Do you see what emerges with magnetism? Magnetism is what begins to unify all things–everything begins to move very strongly.

P6. Green Ring, Love

When this emerges, this vibration, everything begins to visualize itself in a different way and have a different sense. Because now there isn’t just one sound that moves, but everything begins to move, unite and vibrate with that sound. This is what we call love– the famous love. Obviously, love is understood here on Earth in a very cheesy way– love between humans and all that. That is love from Earth, not love from the universe. Universal love is magnetism, even though this might sound a bit cold. What is magnetism? It is the constant movement and unification of things. For example, it is said that Earth loves us. Why does Earth love us? It’s because we are attracted to its center. So Earth loves us because it’s attracted to us. The sun loves the planet for the same reason. A couple loves each other because they are attracted to each other. So love is the attraction and movement of all things. At this point, love is the essence that unifies all things. That’s why it is said that God is love, because God is movement, God is constant regeneration. The problem is the following: What happens when there is only love? The chakras begin to agitate. Craziness begins to happen. Why would he say to me he loves me and all those things? Love on its own is a kind of disaster. Actually, what love creates is what we call chaos. What is chaos? Constant movement, strong movement. When there is too much love, the body seems to explode.  

E. Light Emerges (Cold/Geometry)

P7. Yellow Ring, Light

From constant movement, something else emerges: a new vibration, which we can see with this color, yellow [14:40, P7. yellow ring added, light]. This new vibration is reflection of what we know as light. From the magnetic movement of love, light emerges. What is light? It is movement reflecting itself against the cosmic walls from the center. When it bounces against the Cosmic walls, what emerges is the following: an energy we call here cold, although in reality, it isn’t really cold.  It’s just the closest comparison we can find here on Earth. Coldness is the sensation that light creates in the universe. How? By reflecting itself against the cosmic walls. And when this happens, we begin to find geometry. Anyone knows what sacred geometry is? It’s the universal patterns, the basic patterns. So this geometry will make light organize how the vibration of love should move better, so that we don’t end up in chaos. So love stops moving all over the place, and starts to move in patterns, geometric patterns. Coldness organizes this constant movement of love.  

F. Time Density Emerges

P8.Thicker Yellow Ring, Time Density

What happens then? The following emerges. A new vibration appears—which we call time density. [0:16:21, P8. thicker yellow ring added] Do you know what time is? First of all, does time exist? No?  It is said by some people today that time doesn’t exist, but what doesn’t exist is the concept of time we have in our heads– the idea of this happened, this is happening, this will happen. That isn’t really time; that is just a way of getting organized. But it isn’t time. Time is something different. Time moves in this way: Time is really the corrosion of matter. To explain it more graphically, let’s see if I can draw. [0:17:40, draws three points in positions of the vertices of a triangle] What are these points? They are spirits. They make everything be in constant movement, love. When these spirits emanate light, they connect between each other and that light. [0:7:55, draws lines connecting the points to make a triangle] Here is when geometry appears for the first time—it’s the unification of light of that love. What is time density? Time density allows these spirits to be able to experience everything in the universe as much as possible, so that they do not move in the same place, but have to move around in as many ways as possible to experiment with all the positions in the universe. So these spirits begin to move in different directions and become smaller and smaller, until that geometry begins to collapse between each other and to deform itself. What does this mean in our physical world? When matter deforms itself or collapses, we understand this as the aging or the pass of time. So the corrosion of matter is time. Time structures geometrical light patterns so it can become something different. Time allows constant transformation and experimentation of all things. Without time, we would not be able to experience anything.  

G. Love/Magnetism and Wisdom/Geometry

So then, what would be the opposite of love? Anyone knows? If magnetism is love, what is geometry going to be? Hate? No. That is something that is very human. It’s a human duality. Hate is also on the side of love, really. Hate is just blocked love. Hate is a lot of blocked love. So what is geometry? It’s going to be wisdom. Why? Because wisdom organizes love. Have you noticed that when you fall too much in love, your mind starts to say, “OK, calm down and think.” So without wisdom or without love, we cannot live, really. So to become a balanced being, we must have both things integrated. If we are too loving, we vibrate too much. If we are too wise, we are very static. So we should move with both.  

H. Form Emerges

Once wisdom emerges, then form begins to take place. Why? Because the radiation that comes from light starts to become dense when creating different patterns; for example, it begins to deform itself when creating different vibrations which begin to collapse against each other. When all the time density begins to collapse and unite in one point, what happens? What happens when we concentrate too much energy in one point?  It explodes. Do you remember that?

P9. Orange Ring, Form

The Big Bang. So it’s here where the Big Bang took place. Before, everything was just vibration, etheric, mathematics, geometry. Then after the total densification of these patterns, the Big Bang happened. Why? Because we reached a point where we understood the head, throat, top of chest. Afterwards, we had to go onto something  more dense. So everything unified itself and exploded. [0:21:52, P9. orange ring added, form] When it exploded, it went all over the place, and matter was created.

P10. Hexagram

P11. Other Geometrical Patterns

When matter was created, this geometric pattern emerged [0:22:03, P10. hexagram]. Do you recognize it? This pattern is very important for us, not only because it’s used by the Hebrews; it’s used by other cultures, like the Arabs, for example. They used this pattern because it is the complete integration of all beings. Every being who is going to experiment something at one point has to experience this pattern to be able to exist and integrate everything they have lived. Then other geometrical patterns begin to occur to expand that experience for the rest and for the universe. [0:22:33, P11. Other geometrical patterns]

I. The Cosmic Plan

Once we have all the geometry integrated, then we begin to understand the Cosmic Plan. What is the Cosmic Plan?: What is above is below. Why is this? The Cosmic Plan has the aim to help each electron, which is going to experience each part of this being, to have within each of them the root to return to totality, so each electron can become a new universe. And how can this happen? Of course, you don’t give each spirit a map. What happens here is geometry. That is, all geometric patterns that exist above begin to bends within, till they becomes the tiniest, smallest as possible, which will have the same pattern as above. This means atoms have same structure as universe. The quantum has the same structure as the universe. This will help every atom of light inside ourselves to have the root to become a universe. That’s why it is said “Know thyself to know the universe.” Have you every heard this? It was said in Greece that to be able to know the universe, one has to know oneself. That is because within us, we have the whole universe. To understand God, we don’t have to look up into the stars. We will understand the stars when we begin to understand our bodies, spirit, and soul. So we should begin to stop worrying what’s above the atmosphere, and focus on what we are doing and have to do with each other and with ourselves.



A. Chakras

P12. Chakras

How did the universe develop? What we’re going to see here at this point is what we are actually dealing with. We’ll have to see it a bit fast, but I hope it is understood at the end. So, do you remember about the expansion of the universe, with all those spheres of light we have just seen? Those spheres show the way the universe expands– how the body of the being of God, expands. It’s like an onion, by layers, from the subtlest to the most dense. So that’s the way the universe moves. This is because it is trying to practice experiencing everything by parts. By dividing itself into layers, it will be able to understand itself better. So how does it get divided?  By separating each light from the others, more and more until we get this structure. [0:26:06, P12. Chakras] So do you recognize this? Yes, they are the chakras. What are the chakras? They are the radiation of light divided and densified. Do you remember the saying “We are created in the image and likeness of God?” So who is God? A man with a beard and two legs? No. Really, it is that the same vibration that emerges from totality has the same form in all the layers. So if one is going to experiment a little part of that body, then it’s just going to divide itself into two parts. But if we have to experiment everything in one, then it will divide itself into many more. So we are divided basically into these chakras here.

B. Dimensions

Observe what that on the side is. Do you know what that is? [0:27:54, numbers along left side of P12.Chakras] They are the dimensions. What are the dimensions, exactly? Dimensions are different vibratory states of all this, of everything. So everything is exactly the same in essence. The difference is that when they vibrate in different tunes, they express different dimensions. In which dimension are we? We’re in the third dimension. Many already want to go rushing into the fifth, but I advise them not to rush. Let’s go step by step. So if we are in the 3rd dimension, does that mean we have to experience everything up? Do we have to experiment from the 4th to the 22nd dimension? Do you think that’s the case? Look, we are at the top in the emanation level. Can you observe that point at the top? [0:27:57, top point of P12. Chakras] That is an electron, a spirit. And who are the spirits? We are the spirits. So if we were in the 22nd dimension, what happens then? That means that we’ve been in all the dimensions. What we have been doing is making that ater, heaven, come to tum, earth. We have been bringing everything that is in heaven down to earth, densified, to practice and experiment in different ways. Once we have practiced everything, then we have to make everything that is here go back to the 22nd dimension. This is the hardest part. Coming down, we just slide down, but it’s not the same going up. That’s why we’re stuck in the 3rd dimension, because it’s the densest. So we think, oh my god, do we have to go through all that, all those dimensions, but really all that is just where we came from. So now we have to just try to go back, and like I said, that’s the hardest. So don’t try to rush to escape from the 3rd dimension, because if you leave without your body, that means you have to come back again. Have you heard about physical ascension? That is one of the greatest aims of humanity, but we mustn’t obsessively look for it. We should just let it happen. That’s the big difference. Many people are worried about ascending physically, but you mustn’t worry about that. It doesn’t make sense to get attached to becoming unattached. At the end, you just get attached to becoming unattached. So we must try to relax and focus on what we have to do in the 3rd dimension, and whenever the moment comes, it will come. We don’t have to get rid of the physical body. We have to take the physical body, and take the house, take the car, take the grandma, take the dog, everything. So relax and enjoy.

C. Emanation Level

P13. Levels

That emanation level is where everything comes from. [0:28:53, P13. Levels] Which chakra do you think it corresponds with? With the throat and the head. We have the crown chakra, we’ve got the third eye, and we’ve got the throat. These three chakras are the ones that correspond with the emanation level. These chakras create everything that’s going to emerge below. That’s why our words, thoughts, and consciousness are important, because everything we say, think, and co-create can have an effect. At the emanation level, we have light, we have heat and cold energy. The first is magnetism, and the second is the balance provided by sacred geometry. So it’s going to be at this level where all this vibration comes from. That’s why we don’t understand this vibration very well, because we’re still at the emotional level. That’s why it’s hard, the practice of unconditional love, because universal unconditional love has nothing to do with emotional love. Because we’re still working with our feelings and our emotions, it’s hard to understand this. That’s why some of us come from that level– it isn’t superior, it’s just different– to explain these things, and it seems like we are giving some sort of computer instructions. It sounds very cold, like geometry, algebra. What is a miracle? It is a mathematical alteration. So what really happens is that it isn’t really understood. Sometimes I explain that at that level, the highest fulfillment I remember being was to be an electron inside a cable. It’s an incredible feeling. And this idea of paradise is very different to what’s understood here. Really, our idea of paradise is just in 4th dimension. So just imagine all that’s left, all the levels that are left. So again, just to try to relax.

D. Emotional Level

1. Appearance of Souls

P14. Pink Spot, Souls

P13. Levels

So here is where souls begin to appear. [0:32:41, P14. pink spot added, soul; and P13. Levels] When the souls emerge, the emotional level begins to appear. The souls that I represent here by that pink point is a vibrational level that allows the spirit to experiment in matter. Souls are like etheric placentas that move around the universe. So the soul accepts being the vehicle of the spirit and begins to experiment. How does it do it? Through love and through wisdom. Those are the two main components with which the soul experiments, as the spirit works through magnetism and geometry. But really, they are just the same thing, but just at different vibrational levels.

2. First Beings: Entities

P15. Bluish Green Spot, Entities

Once we have spirits and souls in this process, then the entities begin to appear. Entities are the first beings that exist in the universe. Who are the entities? Logically, they are not beings sitting down on the chair. They are beings that look like this. [34:12, P15. big bluish green spot, entities] These entities vibrate with all their essence filling huge spaces of the universe. An entity is like our arm, and it’s a being with many beings inside it. It hasn’t got a particular form. It just moves. These entities are going to create everything that emerges after. They are the first manifestations of the universe.

E. Angelic Level

1. First Appearance of Form

P13. Levels

From them, the angelic level appears. [0:34:35, P13. Levels] At this level, we don’t find people with robes and wings flying around. The angelic level is where the chakras begin to divide themselves to able to experiment for the first time the different densities of the etheric body. All of us are angelic, because to be able to be born here, most of us at one point had to be angelic. I don’t mean angels, I mean angelic– beings who begin to divide their geometry.

P16. Hexagram-Based Form

P17. Hexagram

From the angelic level, all the forms known in the universe begin to appear, for example, this one. [0:35:16, P16. Hexagram-based form] Do you recognize it? So we get this pattern, remember? [P17. Hexagram] So imagine this pattern in three dimensions [star tetrahedron or stellated octahedron]. It’s like two pyramids in this position. What does this mean? They are like the electrons that radiate light, which creates a vibrational being that begins to move itself by love. Like this. [0:36:18, the two pyramids of star tetrahedron twisting in opposite directions] What this does is contain all the light of the being in the center. When it turns faster, a whirl of energy begins to emerge. In this whirl, the essence begins to divide itself, and when this happens, the chakras begin to appear one by one.

What are the chakras? They are the different energy potentials divided from that geometric center. Each center has a different radiation. First, the third eye radiates.[0:37:00, forehead] When this happens, it becomes conscious of everything that surrounds it. It radiates forwards, sideways, backwards, and upwards. Afterwards, the chakra below begins to radiate, which connects what’s above with what’s below. [throat] We call it the connection, the connection of the spiritual etheric with the physical. After this, there must be an energy that radiates towards everywhere what is being received from above, from the third eye. [heart] How does this chakra radiate? It’s like a light pulsar. Do you know what a pulsar star is? It’s a star that radiates its light through the poles, like constant pulses– boom, boom. It does this to send that light to different points, depending on where the poles are pointing to. Then, we have the chakra or the energy that unifies it all. [solar plexus] Everything that’s above begins to unify and expand. Then, there is a chakra that begins to divides itself because we have to practice duality. [sacrum] Then, another one that has to bring all of it to a specific point below, to make itself concrete in the physical worlds. [root/base] When that light and radiation begins to become dense, what happens?

Let’s summarize. [0:38:40] There is a chakra that radiates forwards and sideways and upwards [forehead, crown], one that connects [throat], one that radiates like a pulsar like a heart [chest], one that unites, [solar plexus] one that divides itself to practice duality [lower abdomen area], and another one that anchors into the earth [rooting motion]. This represents the physical body. And what is the physical body? It’s the radiation of the chakras becoming dense. We don’t have two arms just because. What do these arms do? From that pulsar chakra that radiates from the poles, from these poles, a light beam radiates to one arm, and another light beam radiates to the other arm. One is going to take, so the other arm can give to others, and it’s going to move around. So imagine that sphere radiating light, and when it densifies, it becomes arms. Of course this requires millions and millions of years of evolution. It doesn’t just appear suddenly. The more chakras you have, the more form you’ve got.

Imagine the base chakra, which creates the last form, which makes legs and feet, to be here. Anyone here can see etheric or spiritual light beings? Have you noticed that the spiritual masters, the light beings, tend to have robes and they’re like levitating above the ground? The entities are painted with huge clothes floating about. Why do you think that happens? This is because they still haven’t got the chakras below—they only have the chakras from the heart upwards. So when they get close to matter, the light densifies, and it looks like a robe. What happens to those who are ascended masters? Those are the ones that normally have a robe but you can see their toes below. If you can’t see their feet, this is because they have never been born in human history. And if they are floating and levitating, it’s because they haven’t got legs. And to not get scared, just think they have on a robe. Another thing, do you know why they look all the same.? Have you noticed that Saint Germaine, Jesus, all the masters look all the same.? It seems like its’ a very boring level. Why is this? It’s because at that level, they haven’t practiced personality yet, or they have already integrated personality. So when one has already experienced and integrated personality, then their image begins to look alike. That’s why at the ascended master level, they look all the same.  You get confused with all of them.

2. Angelic Beings

P18. Angel Form

So we have this basic form– another basic form. [0:42:00, P18. angel form] Can you see the radiation from the beings? We have the geometry of our body, and behind it, there are other points, these spikes. What are those spikes? Look at them carefully. It’s very simple. They are wings. Have you noticed that angels have wings, normally? They don’t really have feathers. What happens is that when they approach matter, their geometry begins to densify, and they look like they have wings. Bur really this geometry just comes from the radiation of their being. When you radiate from the heart outward, that means they’re helping others in their process or their way. That’s why guardian or warrior angels are painted with wings on their backs. And those who are working for the purpose of the totality, they seem to have wings coming out of their stomach chakra. This is because it’s the center of the totality. Maybe it has happened to you or it will happen that after an energy therapy, you feel as if you got wings behind. This is because you’re integrating the geometrical pattern of radiation. So those wings that one feels at the back aren’t really wings; they’re just the geometry which is radiating.  For us, they seem like wings, but normally this happens when you’re starting to integrate more things in your life. So you have already practiced many things. For example, you don’t have to practice the arm movement anymore, but to start practicing the radiation of what you have got inside. When one begins to radiate what one has got inside, that’s when one begins to get these wings. So back to the angelics, which all of us are.

3. Christic and Wise Beings [43:59]

P19. Beings

From angelic entities, the famous christic and wise beings begin to emerge. [P19. Beings] Anybody knows what a christic being is? Do you know any christic being? Yes, Jesus. Jesus is the most famous christic being, but there are many others, like the Buddha, or Mohammed, or many others. All of them come from the christic level. There aren’t just three or four. Those like Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha were just the ones that chose to come here. There are many all over the place. What they do is radiate with their light to help others do their things positively, whereas the wise beings offer the structure or methods so they can do it better. So wise beings help you know what to do and how to do it better, and the christic beings guide you through the process to make sure that you do it correctly. So who are the poor guys who are going to have to experiment? The people in the middle, the angelical beings, who are asking, “Where, where, where?” and saying, “I’ll go, but I’m not sure where.” So the wise people say, “Over there,” and the christic beings say, “I’ll go with you.”

So from here, the soul is going to experiment with these things. So what happens when a soul experiments with these things? Like I said, the first ones to appear are the christics and the wise beings. And they don’t have a strict time geometry. That means they don’t live a time density. If they only have light radiation and no strict geometry, that means there is no real time. That’s why as we leave the 3D more and more, there is going to be less and less time. In the 4th dimension, it’s relative. In the 5th dimension, it’s hard to perceive time. In the 6th dimension, one creates time however one feels like it. In the 7th dimension, it’s not really thought about. In the 8th dimension, it doesn’t even exist. There isn’t a single atom of matter left, so time can’t exist. So when we work with the two chakras below, in the universe, we have to have time. Knowing that the christic, wise, and angelic beings were still in the 9-11th dimension, they did things whenever they wanted, so they took millions of years to do just one thing. So some wise beings decided that it was going to necessary to begin to put limits to this, not because nothing was happening, but because there was a lot of things to be done. And they were concentrating, for example, on a flower, and there were many more things to be experienced in the universe. So it was necessary to begin to put limits.

F. Integration Level

P13. Levels

P19. Beings

That’s when the integration level emerges. [0:47:07, P13. Levels] Everything that exists in the other levels is going to be put into practice at this level. So third dimension isn’t really just third dimension. It’s the unification of 22 dimensions in one. That’s why you’re in the position that you are in. So at this integration level, everything that we have lived, created, and experienced by ourselves, we‘re going to experience it all together here. So the wise beings began to densify matter to create even more matter. So when this happens, time density emerges. What is time? It’s the border between what’s physical or material, and what’s not physical. So from here, a kind of separation is created where we’re going to experiment with everything that’s material or matter.

2. Galactic Beings

So from here, the first beings who are going to work on matter appear, although they are not going to be very physical yet. [P19. Beings] These are the entities we call galactic beings. The galactic beings have been put there by the angelic beings in different physical or light worlds to help and to collaborate with the beings who are going to work in the densest worlds. These galactic beings are the ones we are going to call extraterrestrials. Have you heard about them? The famous ETs or galactic beings are those who work as a link between the galactic, christic, and wise beings, and us, the physical and dense beings. This is for us to not forget the reason we are here doing what we’re doing. These galactic beings are the densified creation of the light beings. For example, have you heard about the Pleiadians?  They are a race that tends to vibrate in both angelic levels and physical levels. They choose where and when they want to vibrate. Their job is to connect with both levels to help the dense and physical beings understand their purpose.

3. Humans

So from the galactic beings, we are going to get the physical beings like us humans. Humans were put here for an important reason, and later we will understand what that is.

G. A Problem is Addressed [0:49:55]

1. Lucifer and Michael, Dark Angels and Light Angels 

When we have the angelic and galactic beings, when humans were just still a project, a problem emerged. And this was that even though matter became densified, we were still contemplating, let’s say, flowers, for millions upon millions of years. We were focused on minute things, not like now. Just imagine how we are now. Before, we still had the christic consciousness idea of just floating in no time. If you notice, some people still have this thing about living forever. Have you observed that—the eternal life? I wouldn’t advise that to you right now. Later we will see why. Many christics began to be born in the physical world, and they just continued this process.

P19. Beings

Then this being emerged. Do you know who Lusbel is? Anyone heard about him? Anyone spoke with him one day? Well, Lusbel is also known as Lucifer. [P.19. Beings] Oh, shit! So Lusbel is a light being, one of the most important light beings in the universe. What did this light being do? He was a wise being, so he proposed a system. This system consisted of this: If these humans are focusing constantly on superficial things, let’s add more limits to let them know there isn’t enough time to do things in the physical world. There are more things to experiment, not just a flower, but to begin to do more things because it is possible.  So next to Lusbel, a being, an angel called Michael or Mi-cha-el appeared. [0:52:04] What did the archangel Michael say? “OK, I accept the plan, but with one condition. We can’t interfere with their process (what we call free will). They are going to choose when, how, and why, although the what is already determined. Free will only exists from the angelic beings downwards. From the angelic beings upwards, free will doesn’t really exist. Free will is the choice of how, when, with whom, and where I’m going to do something, but not what. What is going to happen is pure geometry and mathematics. So it’s always going to be how it’s supposed to be. As a spirit, I’m going to choose how, when, and with whom I’m going to do my plan, but my plan is already mapped out. This is free will. So the wise being, Lusbel, for example, says, “We have to do the plan.” And the christic being says, “But allow them to do it however they want.” So here, an agreement is made: “Let’s support the process without interfering with what they decide to do.” Here is where millions of beings emerged whom we call light angels and dark angels. [0:53:21] The dark angels aren’t actually dark; they are also light beings, and if you ever see a dark angel, they actually look very similar to the light angels. The only difference really is that one puts limits, and the other guides in those limits. But the same problem was still appearing. No matter how many geometrical limits the wise beings put– like making them live less time, the reincarnation system– the physical beings were still lost. So the wise beings added more and more limits. They made the humans stop living for 1,000 years, and they were going to be living only 26 years. There was actually a moment when the humans and other physical beings would live until they were 26 and they would already be old. But what happened was that humans were still living 1,000 years doing the same thing. How? By dying and re-birthing constantly. Anyone remember this? Many of you have been there, is that correct? Living, dying, living, dying, constant reincarnation cycle where one gets trapped and just can’t escape. Why can’t they escape?  Because they don’t realize they can escape. It’s not because someone said you must stay there, but because one is experimenting in many lives what they should experiment in just one. So people were still in the idea that in 1000 years, they can do a lot of things, so they still took their time. So some dark angels began to think, “These people are stupid,” to say in a very human way. They began to get closer and closer to matter to try to tell the physical beings what to do. But still nothing was happening. So what happened? Dark angles began to get too close to matter to show the physical beings where to go, and the light angels were following them and so they were also getting too close. What happens when they get too close? They begin to disconnect from the purpose, because the closer one gets to matter, the top chakra gets rigid or stiff, so one begins to forget what they really they were above. Because the requirement to be in the physical world is not to remember every thing, to be able to focus on what one has to do there. That’s why we forget when we get born. The problem was that for the dark and the light angels to help us do things better and faster, they should be connected, but they got too close to matter and that’s when the following happened: angels and demons. Do you remember? The demons are also helping us with the process. The problem is that they are very close to us, and they thought, “If they don’t do it very well, I’ll do it.” And they began to go inside the physical body. This is known as exorcisms, possessed bodies, and all that. They just decided to do it because they thought that humans were just too stupid to do it. So the big problem started here, because the angels started to come closer to the physical beings because the demons began to go into the bodies. Do you remember that agreement between Michael and Lusbel? Don’t influence their process? And the demons began to do it. And when they did it, the disaster began. The angels declared war against the demons. How did this war begin? The light angels began to put a bodyguard next to every soul. This is what we call a guardian angel. This was to prevent the demons from taking possession of the physical body. Actually, our physical body is a kind of natural protection from the beings of other levels. But if you’re attuned to their vibration, they can influence you. If you vibrate low, you can be close to the demons, and if you vibrate high, you can be close to the angels. Well, so these two who are bothering us a lot– because it must be said that the angles are sometimes bothering us– are just like us, because they became disconnected from the general purpose. The demons got stuck in their minds “Hurry them up, hurry them up.” And the angels, “Protect them, protect them.” So the angels declared a war against the demons, and these demons began to screw with our lives. It’s what got stuck in their minds, simply.

In all of this, where do we fit? We are neutral, we are in the middle of all this. This means that both angels and demons depend on us to be able to return and connect again. Those demons and angels who die in the battle are reborn here as humans. When a demon is born here, how would you recognize it? With horns? Many can think born demons are going to be full of rage, hate, and desire to kill. This is not so. Sometimes a demon is born and finds everything amusing and playful,  because being a demon doesn’t meant to be evil, necessarily. It just means to try to speed up the process. A different thing is that some have chosen a negative way of speeding up the process. And the angels that are born here, sometimes they are very angry because they don’t like to be born here. Their destiny wasn’t to work for eight hours a day. So they are sometimes pissed off when they come here, because they are filled with love. And what was a lot of blocked love? It’s hate. The demons kind of let their hate just flow, so they’re not going to show a lot of hate. They don’t accumulate that hate. So, in general, what is this all about? Really, everything is the same. We are all the same, and we are all working for the same process. Demons aren’t darkness as we know it. They just chose that process to do it, but this doesn’t mean that they are the baddies of the film. We mustn’t fight against them. We must just try to integrate them. They are also brothers who, like us, became disconnected, or even worse.

2. Spiritual Guides of the 7th Dimension [1:01:35]

Another thing to take into consideration are the beings of the 7th dimension we call spiritual guides, the secretaries whom we ask for advice to know sometimes what to do. Before we are born, we agree on a plan with them. We agree on what we are going to do in this theater called life. Many of us agreed that if at any point we get lost in our process, for something to smack us, to wake us up, to reconnect again. Here’s when the personal crisis kicks in. The guides just follow the plan. They aren’t necessarily “good,” as we understand it. They are neutral. That’s what I’d like to talk about, about neutrality, because for thousands of years, we’ve been talking about good and bad, light and darkness, but let’s start talking about the neutral beings. The neutral beings are focused on the process. They’re not interested in light or darkness. What they care about is for things to get done. It doesn’t matter how, but for it to be done. Many of these guides of the 7th dimension are going to tell the angels to make sure we get things done.

To show you this with a graphic example, just imagine you’re walking to work, which is straightforward, but on a street to the left, where you never go, there is a book shop which has a book with the title that is going to attract your attention. In this book, you’ll find the answers to what you have to do afterwards. And they kind of try to tell to you go to that street, but you don’t notice. They try again, the guides, to tell you but because you’re so disconnected, you just don’t realize this. You just keep on moving forward. So literally, they’re going to put roadworks in the corner to try to make you turn to help guide you. But you just decide to keep on your path. At this point, they decide to call the angels to help guide you. And the angels try to give you signs to recognize this message, or they even stand in front of you, giving you a kind of energy that doesn’t allow you to walk. It kind of paralyzes you. They even blow you the message “Over there, over there.” And you keep on walking, deciding to ignore the signs. That’s when angels and guides of the 7th dimension decide to call in the demons. Remember, the guides are neutral, they just want the process to happen. So they decide to tell the demon, we need your help, and of course, he says, “I’m more than happy to help you.” Then the demon gets close to the matter, and they decide to go behind you. And if you don’t listen to them immediately, then when you decide to cross the street, a van is going to appear and run over you. Your face is going to be bleeding on the road, and when you look up, you see the shop assistant of the bookshop, who comes and helps you, and when she takes you into her shop, you look and you find the book right in front of you. They’re just trying to look for the best way to do it. Their way of thinking is, “If they don’t understand this way, they won’t understand it ever.” That’s why one must be aware of the signs, so that the guides of the 7th dimension don’t decide to call the demons. But what we should understand also is that we must thank these demons, because they have allowed us to understand something faster. The problem is that many of them have created a lot of stories– like the humans with the excess of conspiracies– and they have created a kind of hell where they decide to sell and buy souls. Stupid things like this, which exist, but we mustn’t worry about them.

So we as spirits, we don’t learn in a linear way. We learn constantly in different positions in place, we learn through many parts. So to be able to be beings born in matter, at one point, we must have been demons, or other ways of darkness, like witches, or alchemists, or whatever. The two ways we are going to filter ourselves through this universe is what we call karma and dharma. For example, I could come from very high dimensions, and if I want to come down to matter, the way I’m going to choose or I have to do it is through karma. It’s the balance I need to come down into matter. But through dharma, I can just go up. So dharma is everything I have learned and taught. Karma is all the homework I have left to do. It’s not anything negative. It’s just what I have left for the following year. To go up to the other dimensions, one has to get rid of the karma, to balance it. This is really what sets limits between the dimensions. This is why we must try to get rid of old things and learn the most amount of new lessons to be able to go up the dimensions with matter. All this at the end of the day is to be able to experiment and integrate. We are not really here to make the darkness of the planet disappear. We are not necessarily here to live a life of love, peace, and eternal happiness. Everything we do is to be able to experiment and integrate our lessons—everything, light, darkness, everything must be experienced.  The problem is when we think that when the experiment goes wrong, this is bad. Do you know what mistake is in Latin? It’s “errato.” It means “sin.” We think that we mustn’t commit mistakes. We must do exactly this or that. But this isn’t so. You are here to experiment. If you make a mistake, it’s okay. You’ll try it again after, see if it works better. And there’s no problem. So everything is going to be just fine. [Table 1. Dual Aspects of the Universe]

Table 1. Dual Aspects of the Universe



A. The Galactic Plan

1. Essence of the Galactic Plan

So this is to understand the galactic plan, which was designed to help with the divine plan in the physical world and to not forget the essential knowledge. The galaxies in the universe are like the joints in our body; they connect one part with the other, so that we’re all in tune with each other.

2. Helpers in the Galactic Plan

i. The Council of Thirteen: The Zodiac

In our galaxy, we have various beings who are going to help with our process. One is the Council of Thirteen, which is known as this: the zodiac. [1:08:40]  They are thirteen beings who influence us in our learning process to make us understand what we’re going to do. That’s why the best way to understand our plan is a birth reading, depending on who does it, of course– obviously not from a magazine. But it has a lot to do with what you have agreed to do before being born. So they are thirteen beings who are helping us with their different energies.

ii. Beings from Star Groups [1:09:14] 

Also, there are others, like the star groups like Arcturus, Pleiades, Orion, and Sirius. These are four of the star groups that are going to influence us the most. We can see them more or less like this, these groups who have an influence on humanity and help with the process and with what the humans have to do. [1:09:30] The beings from Arcturus are kind of the medicine- and genetics- knowledgeable people of the galaxy. Most of our genes came from these beings. That’s why we look so much alike. Also, that’s why there have been so many people who have tried to look for the pure race as the white, blond, blued-eyed race, and this is pretty ridiculous, because they are just the race who helped us to be who we are, not the race we have to guard ourselves from. There are many races on our planet, and all of them are very important. Then we have the Pleiades, which is kind of like the Vatican of the galaxy. This doesn’t mean they work like the Vatican, of course, but what I mean is that they work spirituality on the physical worlds. They keep the connection between the divinity and the planets, and that’s their role.  The beings from Orion bring us science and part of the culture. The beings from Sirius bring us architecture, linguistics, culture, and many other things. They mustn’t be confused with the greys. Do you know who the greys are? They are quite similar. They are the ones who are normally characterized, the kind of the ones from area 51 and all that. They mustn’t be confused. The Sirians have collaborated with us a lot, especially to create humanity as a society. They are very important. So they are all ETs who have influenced our system a lot.

All of them form what is known as the galactic confederation and legions. The galactic confederation, for those who don’t know what it is exactly, is kind of the UN of the galaxy. They meet together to decide if the planet below is going well or not. So these beings are going to help us with our learning process. These beings are going to help and work through unconditional love and compassion. This means that they don’t interfere in the process unless we ask for it consciously. Not by some sort of contract, but they are wise and they know when to do it. The universal legions are some of those ships that protect the atmosphere. Basically, their function is to not allow in anybody who hasn’t got a passport, just to understand the idea.

In our days, right now, the being who is managing the galactic confederation is this one here. People call him the Ashtar Sheran, the intergalactic commander. This seems like some sort of a science fiction movie. His task is to make sure everything is working according to the plan. So you’re going to have to be careful if you’re going to read channelings from this being or any being. If you’re going to read a channeling from him, be careful because he is a being who is an intergalactic politician. I don’t mean be careful because he’s a politician, but because he’s a being who is busy with loads of things.  So don’t expect him to help you find a parking space. He is a being who is helping with our process. In our galaxy, various beings help with our process, and they contact us through the interplanetary computer networks. And like all computer networks, there are viruses. So try to be careful with those viruses. The only way to know if the information is pure for you or not is by resonating with that information. If it resonates with you, if it vibrates inside, that’s perfect.  If there are just two paragraphs that resonate with you out of the whole channeling text, just take notice of those two. Nobody has the truth, because there are viruses everywhere. And this is advice with any channeling. The problem isn’t the channeler, but the interference that is in the network.

iii. Past Civilizations and Alchemist Architect Gods

Also, the civilization before 4,000 BC, for example, Atlantis or Lemuria, and alchemist architect gods like this one, Thoth, are also going to help and collaborate with our process. The alchemist architect gods are beings who are hybrids from other systems, who are collaborating with our system, especially through architecture and alchemy. This is to help the inner and outer transformation of beingness through the building of the universal geometrical patterns on earth, which we call architecture. So they are going to anchor the light from the universe here on Earth in the physical form.

iv. Voluntary Spirits and Souls

Also, voluntary spirits and souls are going to collaborate with our process. The voluntary spirits– we are many of the beings who are here right now– we’re the one who say, “Okay, let’s go and see what happens.”

v. Humans

Finally, all of the humans, every soul and spirit who has been born. Every human, even those about whom we wonder why on earth he or she got born, they are here because they have an important purpose on earth. We shouldn’t believe anything about anyone. We should accept. If they are here, it must be for a reason. We have to observe what they are teaching us and nothing else.

B. Earth’s Purpose in Our Solar System [1:16:40]

1. Sun: The Solar Plexus Chakra 

And why is all of this? Well, it is to make Earth belong to the cosmic order and for it not to lose its purpose in the totality. As you can see, the universe is huge and complex. What can we do so that this small Earth doesn’t get lost in all of this? The following: The importance of the process on Earth is because the whole solar system began to need Earth’s help.

Everyone knows that the solar system is a living being? It’s a living being with a spirit, soul, and a physical body. What is the solar plexus of our system? Everyone knows what the solar plexus is? It’s the third chakra, the one in the center. So we have the base chakra, the sacral, the solar plexus, the heart, the throat, the third eye, and the crown. They are the most important, although there are many other chakras. In our solar system, which is the solar plexus? The sun. Of course, the sun comes from the solar plexus. Why is the sun the solar plexus? Because it’s the center.

2. Earth: The Sacral Chakra

Where would you situate Earth? It’s going to be between the heart and the base, the root chakra. Which chakra do you think Earth is? It’s the sacrum [lower abdomen]. This means that it’s the kidney of our solar system. Why? Because it’s a planet made from water, a planet of will, creativity, fear, and frustration.  So Earth is a kidney, basically.

3. Other Planets 

There are other planets that are working in this process– for example, Jupiter, Venus, and Mars. What do planets do in our solar system?  Do you remember the reason why we experiment? It was to integrate. How do we integrate things? What is the center through which we integrate everything? Which chakra is the most important to integrate? It’s the solar plexus, the one in the center. Everyone thinks it’s the heart, but we have the heart because we are very loving people. But the heart isn’t to integrate, but to collaborate with the rest in the process, in balance. The solar plexus is to integrate everything that we have practiced. What comes out the heart ends up in the solar plexus. So everything that we integrate goes toward the solar plexus. Where are the planets going toward? Toward the sun. The planets are destined to be suns. And we as planets, we tend toward illuminating ourselves, to ascend physically– for example, Venus, which has already begun its ascent, its physical ascension. Why? Is it because there is a paradise up there? No, because its core fire is burning, so it has begun its physical ascension process. Also, mercury, for example. Mars, on the other hand, got rid of all the life on its planet because it began to practice being an individual– the whole planet, not only the beings above. The other planets began to be like a heart. So the root chakra began to be an individual. The other kidney began to light itself on fire, and Mercury began to integrate itself as another sun.

4. The Importance of Earth

So all the beings who lived on those planets and others behind them, where did they go? Yes, they came here, all to Earth. So the purpose of this made Earth very important. It became more important, so it needed more light, because it had a whole bunch of beings to anchor the light. Earth is destined to become a sun, so one day it’s going to begin to burn. But don’t worry because it will happen in about five thousand million years’ time. It’s going to burn because it’s going to ascend physically, but in the mean time it needs many beings to anchor the light here. That’s why different souls began to be born in different forms– animal, vegetable, and human– to bring that light.

C. Anchoring of Light on Earth

1. The Kingdoms of Earth Anchor Light

The kingdoms offer different vibrations to anchor that light. The first kingdom that appeared was the mineral kingdom. It anchors the light and keeps it in on the planet, and even brings the light into the planet. From the minerals, we get the second kingdom. The trees and the vegetation, which are going to channel the light from the sky to Earth. A very important function for them is to create the atmosphere. What does the atmosphere do? It keeps the light on the planet. So the light comes, and it doesn’t reflect but stays in, so that the planet begins to warm up and have life. From here, there are many being that aren’t going to receive light, so they begin to eat the light. To reach these beings, animals, it will take many years of evolution. And after that, there are beings that think, ‘If there are animals that eat the light, then I’ll eat those beings.’ That’s how carnivores began to appear.

2. Humans Are Brought to Earth to Anchor Light

What does this all mean? The feeding process on Earth is essential. Food is the physical way to channel light. Some people meditate. Other people eat. The problem isn’t what you eat, but how you eat. And how it comes out. One can eat meat, no problem, but it has to be able to be digested appropriately. So where does the human being fit in here? Humans were called to come so that some being could anchor the light consciously, and they needed them immediately. The Neanderthals and other beings were already appearing here, but they needed a being with culture, word, thought, that could do it immediately. That’s why the galactic confederation brought the human. The human being and its races are a mixture of original races from Earth and from the stars. And what does the human being do? They eat everything. Why does the human being eat everything? Because they didn’t’ realize or understand why they were there. Of course, to be a race, it’s necessary to eat from these kingdoms, but also they have to realize that at some point they have to stop eating these kingdoms. But one mustn’t stop eating something because they think it’s bad. We have to stop eating it when we feel we don’t need it. The idea is to one day survive only on sunlight. But relax, and take your time. So, the food chain is essential to understand this process.

3. The Terrestrial Plan [1:24:25]

And here is where terrestrial or Earth plan emerges, which was created by the ancient civilizations with the help of the galactic confederation to keep the [divine] plan working on Earth. How do they do it? Through pyramids, society, culture, civilizations.

4. Pyramids, Trees, and Humans Anchor Light

P19. Human, Pyramid, Tree

The pyramids are the best way to anchor the light.  With or without us, even if the civilizations disappear, the light will still continue to be channeled through the pyramids. The problem is that our pyramids have outdated windows. The pyramids of today work on the window from ‘97 or ‘98. So they have to be reprogrammed by architects, not by the spiritual people, because it’s like telling the reiki master to solve a software problem on your computer. Not a lot is going to happen. Architects made the pyramids, so architects have to install new windows in them. So the architects are going to come—don’t worry. In the meanwhile, we have to try to get rid of the tourism. While they are still touristic, what’s important for us to do is to become pyramids. [1:25:48, P19. Human, pyramid, tree] So we got the trees who are unconsciously active in the process. We’ve got the pyramids that are also unconscious but worn out, and we’ve got the humans who are totally unconscious right now. How can we make the humans more conscious? For them to learn from the other two, because we also have pyramid-like patterns in our geometry. But to understand this, we have to realize that what’s below is also important. So the pyramid has another pyramid below, because it doesn’t mean go up to the sky. It means, let’s bring the sky, heaven, down to Earth. They are like energy machines that allow all the divine light from the being to be continued to be anchored on Earth, although we humans get disconnected. They did them fast and quick at the time, in about 9,000 BC, to make sure that when the humans got disconnected, at least there still would be this to anchor the light. So we also work downwards and we can only work in the new society if we follow the example of the trees. This is essential because by this way, we will be able to channel all the light that planet Earth needs. If we worry about our channeling process and not about the process of the rest, this isn’t real compassion. Compassion isn’t to help others or give without expecting anything in return. Compassion and unconditional love is to accept the process of each person and to respect their timing. So focus on yourself in the next 2,500 years, and again, relax.

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5 responses to “Matias de Stefano Presents “The Keys of Ater Tumti” (Part 2/3): Transcript, First Part

  1. He cites bible, religion,ancient greek wisdom, chakras..and mixes everything. He knows nothing. No wisdom on his own. Dangerously misleading! He is completely nuts!

  2. Hi Hui Sun, I would love to hear Matias video in the original Spanish, if you have a link to it please post it. Thanks!

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